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16 Jun, 2010

Abolish government sanctioned marriage

Posted by: arabellasays In: Religious Fervor| Social Issues

I have no problem with defining marriage as existing only between a man and a woman.  If fundamentalists believe that marriage is between a man and a woman, fine, let them have the term. But then the word needs to apply only to religious recognition of a relationship. If marriage must be defined as strictly between a man and a woman, it has been made an inherently religious-based term and the government, federal or state, should have no role in it. Nor should benefits be bestowed based on marriage. The state shouldn’t be doling out privileges based on a person’s religion.

The only government sanctioned contract should be a civil union – between any two consenting adults. Religious institutions don’t want government nosing into their
territory – except when it would allow them to institute discriminatory practices on those who do not subscribe to their religious beliefs.

Claims by the religious right that marriage needs to be restricted because the primary purpose of marriage is creating an environment for raising children and it is best for children to be raised by a mother and a father are disineguous at best. I don’t hear them clamoring for couples to be required to sign agreements to procreate or trying to deny marriage to those who are infertile or are too old to have children. If this is the primary purpose of marriage, those who have no intention of having children should also be excluded. And while we’re at it, perhaps we should take as wards of the state any children who are born out of wedlock or whose parents divorce. Clearly, the opponents of gay marriage are being less than candid about their motivations in an attempt to turn their religious convictions into a secular rationale.

Reasonably, you would be able get married in a church without having a legal contract. The church can choose who they will marry (or not). Or you could have your civil union recognized by the state and be subject to the associated responsibilities and privileges. Or you could choose to do both. The state has no right to discriminate on what, if everyone is being honest, are solely religious grounds.

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7 Responses to "Abolish government sanctioned marriage"

1 | justsayinblog

June 16th, 2010 at 9:33 am

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2 | Bruce

October 17th, 2010 at 8:39 am

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If you identify the scriptural context of marriage, all the religious and political difficulties are removed. In the Bible a man took a woman and they were husband and wife. Religion and politics confused the issue by introducing ceremonies and documents. So, in reality the true Christian ethos of marriage can never be altered. And for true Christians, who really cares about the worldly interpretation of Scripture.

3 | Ashley

June 27th, 2012 at 4:24 pm

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arabellasays has said it well. Government sanctioned civil unions should be where the government benefits attach and should be available to anyone. Marriage is a religious, non-legal ceremony. Let the religions do what they want with it, but they should ot be recognized by the government. Religions are for the most part prejudicial, intolerant institutions that do much more harm than good by encouraging people to accept what cannot be demonstrated. It leads to sloppy thinking.

Often the argument in favor of all the perks given to marriage is that families stabilize a society. But not necessarily and not every family. To be more precise, committed relationships stabilize society. People living in relationships that are mutually respectful and loving offer all kinds of benefits to society. The way many religions define the relationships in a marriage is antithetical to respect and that’s bad for society.

4 | Adam S

February 10th, 2013 at 3:30 pm

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The sad reality is that not everything is perfect. There will always be winners and losers. When people always post sad updates, they are doing it for attention… Nobody posts things personal and sad on Facebook to gain pity. When people, good people, are going through rough times, some share and some don’t. The ones who share don’t always realize how lucky they are to have people to share with, because the reality is that most people don’t have that someone to share with. Most people perceive pain, sorrow, and feelings as a weakness, but it is our strength. It is a big thing that separates us from the monkeys you see in the zoo. Do you ever see them crying or hugging because one feels sad? No, you don’t. As a man should never outlive his children, the child, should never have to care for the parent as the parent once did for the child. When that happens, a part of your innocence vanishes. It disappears, never to be found again. As a child you should never have to see tour parents cry, either. Is it easy to deal with it? No. But doing something irrational like yelling at somebody, pushing those who love and care about you away and, the ultimate issue in today’s society: suicide, are not what humans are supposed to do. They do however, make us human. Who has ever seen a bird commit suicide? A bear? Even as much as a spider? It is not natural, but the human race has been altered by all of the technology and discoveries of today’s world. That is good and that is bad. On the bad hand you have suicide, loneliness, and many other bad emotions and thoughts no good person should have to go through. But on the good hand you have respect, and politeness. A male shark does not let a female eat the kill because she must have it to birth their young, he does it because she is bigger than him, and therefore intimidating. Who are we to force mere philosophies on each other? Unless mankind has actually felt and seen god, if he is even there, create the world and everything in it, then there is no difference in religions. They are all a group of people who are misguided and must be set on track by a god of their choosing. Wether they are raised to believe in him/her or not. God represents something higher than yourself, that is responsible for the great gift of life. We need to learn and accept that. And when we do, we will have inner peace, that of which cannot be bought or sold. The people who oppose gay marriage… What is it to you? If you are worried about humans dying out because 2 males cannot reproduce that you’re an idiot. What skin is it off of your nose? None. How would you like it If you had to go to another country to find a better car than you were dealt and you met someone of the same sex that you wanted to marry as somebody just came along and said nope sorry. Honestly think of that. Think if you and your wife/husband couldn’t get married because somebody didn’t believe in it. Despite true love, you were never to be together. People make the argument “the USA was founded by Christians!” That is true.

5 | Adam S

February 10th, 2013 at 3:31 pm

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The sad reality is that not everything is perfect. There will always be winners and losers. When people always post sad updates, they are doing it for attention… Nobody posts things personal and sad on Facebook to gain pity. When people, good people, are going through rough times, some share and some don’t. The ones who share don’t always realize how lucky they are to have people to share with, because the reality is that most people don’t have that someone to share with. Most people perceive pain, sorrow, and feelings as a weakness, but it is our strength. It is a big thing that separates us from the monkeys you see in the zoo. Do you ever see them crying or hugging because one feels sad? No, you don’t. As a man should never outlive his children, the child, should never have to care for the parent as the parent once did for the child. When that happens, a part of your innocence vanishes. It disappears, never to be found again. As a child you should never have to see tour parents cry, either. Is it easy to deal with it? No. But doing something irrational like yelling at somebody, pushing those who love and care about you away and, the ultimate issue in today’s society: suicide, are not what humans are supposed to do. They do however, make us human. Who has ever seen a bird commit suicide? A bear? Even as much as a spider? It is not natural, but the human race has been altered by all of the technology and discoveries of today’s world. That is good and that is bad. On the bad hand you have suicide, loneliness, and many other bad emotions and thoughts no good person should have to go through. But on the good hand you have respect, and politeness. A male shark does not let a female eat the kill because she must have it to birth their young, he does it because she is bigger than him, and therefore intimidating. Who are we to force mere philosophies on each other? Unless mankind has actually felt and seen god, if he is even there, create the world and everything in it, then there is no difference in religions. They are all a group of people who are misguided and must be set on track by a god of their choosing. Wether they are raised to believe in him/her or not. God represents something higher than yourself, that is responsible for the great gift of life. We need to learn and accept that. And when we do, we will have inner peace, that of which cannot be bought or sold. The people who oppose gay marriage… What is it to you? If you are worried about humans dying out because 2 males cannot reproduce that you’re an idiot. What skin is it off of your nose? None. How would you like it If you had to go to another country to find a better car than you were dealt and you met someone of the same sex that you wanted to marry as somebody just came along and said nope sorry. Honestly think of that. Think if you and your wife/husband couldn’t get married because somebody didn’t believe in it. Despite true love, you were never to be together. People make the argument “the USA was founded by Christians!” That is true.

6 | Jack Faust

February 13th, 2013 at 1:49 pm

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I am not usually a man of few words. But I would like to express my thoughts on your originating post.
Too Right.
Too Right.

7 | Matt

March 28th, 2013 at 4:13 pm

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